Posts by never a jw

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Returning to the truth.

by Justmeok2 in

hi i am just starting to rebuild my relationship with jehovah.

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i would like to hear from people who may be or have been in similar situations and now want to dedicate their lives to him..

Billions claim they have a relationship with God, but none can prove it. Is it in their minds and their religious leaders just feed that belief? After all, all religious organizations have an interest in your relationship with God. God gets your prayers and devotion, and religious leaders get your money and free proselytizing labor.

Be careful!

Dedicate your life to humans. They are very, very real and needy. They need your dedication more than an all powerful invisible, silent God who has allowed thousand of conflicting religions to thrive without saying Jack.

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New Research at AJWRB

by Lee Elder in

the latest research article published at ajwrb estimates the number of jehovah's witnesses who have died from following or being coerced to follow watchtower's blood policy.

the numbers are staggering.

http://ajwrb.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-blood-tens-of-thousands-dead-in-hidden-tragedy.

never a jw

"The act of taking blood is considered like you disassociated yourself. Same way they treat someone who joins the armed services."

That's not what the elder's book say: If you allow me to paraphrase, it suggests that if a person gets a blood transfusion but shows repentance then she/he is not disfellowshipped. It adds that the patient may have been subject to pressure.

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Me and my schools band

by Akid48 in

so i made this to take off some of the anxiety of what i have to tell all my friends when i have to go to my band camp i have to go to.. so i play tuba in my school i love it i had made friends that are now close friends.so i am number 1 or 2 when it comes to how good we play so when placements for what band your in for next year i was put in to honors band my aunt said good job but when we went to the meeting for it she got mad saying she thinks it to much for me going into school early than i do staying at school later and some things she said was right but the thing that got her mad is that i might not be able to go to the meetings after home work etc and she went more into the jw things on school.. the thing that gets me mad is that know i have to think of a way to tell my friends that i im out of honors band because of jw reasons.. one more thing is i cant do many things i suck at sports and many more butt playing the tuba was the one thing i could say im good at than video games but it seems like at high school i might have to drop it :(.

never a jw

Maybe persisting on worldly pursuits will serve good purposes: 1) do what you like and 2) lower the expectations of your aunt regarding your spirituality. Remember that one day she will insist to get baptized. Start disappointing her, so she gets used to low expectations. Just remain a good kid in every other way. In fact, be better than the "spiritual" kids.

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Canada starts fight-back against bloodless surgery?

by darkspilver in

i'm sure orphancrow will be able to fill in the details for us.. front page news with picture all over the canadian globe and mail newspaper today.. with major double-page spread across the whole of pages 8 and 9 in the newspaper's front section.. globe and mail, tuesday 8 august 2017.. the patient, a 70-year-old man with high-risk prostate cancer, was a jehovah’s witness.. his religion was one of the reasons he decided to undergo surgery at st. joseph’s healthcare in hamilton, home to a robot named da vinci whose steady metal hands can remove a prostate with scant risk of the blood transfusions forbidden by the man’s faith.. on a recent afternoon, the patient laid unconscious on an operating table as surgeon bobby shayegan and his team plunged a camera and three robotically controlled surgical instruments through small incisions in his abdomen.. dr. shayegan settled himself in front of a three-dimensional screen, clasped the two joysticks that controlled the tools inside his patient’s pelvis and proceeded to cut, cauterize and stitch until he freed the man’s prostate, pulling it out through one of the original incisions.. there was next to no blood.. “that was routine,” dr. shayegan said afterward, holding the plum-sized gland that he and the robot had removed together.

...in its first real ruling on a robotic surgery, the expert committee that advises ontario on which new health technologies to pay for said there was no good evidence that robot-assisted radical prostatectomy is any better than conventional open surgery when it comes to controlling cancer or preserving urinary and sexual function.. the panel said the robot’s other benefits – patients have smaller incisions, lose less blood, suffer less pain and leave the hospital sooner – were not significant enough to justify spending, on average, an extra $3,224 a case, a figure that does not include the millions that wealthy benefactors have spent buying the machines for canadian hospitals.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/the-fight-for-robots-in-canadas-operatingrooms/article35897282/.

never a jw

It's unfair to the payers of a public health system to burden them with the special and expensive care demanded by a small group of people who holds beliefs that originate in 3,000 year old rites. One more example of "how religion poisons everything"

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WT shooting themselves in the foot, or rather the mouth, finally

by oppostate in

"stop the presses!".

awesome blog article at bereans.net !.

http://beroeans.net/2017/08/07/stop-the-presses/.

never a jw

"although compelling to those who bother to think it through"

When I read The Gentile Times Reconsidered of COJ some years ago, I became passionate about the subjects involved, especially Babylonian astronomy, because it was about using facts and evidence to uncover JW bullshit. But this business of using bullshit to uncover bullshit (interpretation of the Bible to demonstrate that JW's got the two flocks completely wrong) has never been an attractive exercise of the mind. I just have to leave the other sheep alone.

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Rookie exJW Question

by Phoebe in

jw
friends

i was wondering if someone could help me with a question.. i am a rookie exjw, i only left the organization 4 months ago and everything i've discovered (un/arc/malawi/mexico etc) i've only discovered in the last few months so you can image it's been a huge shock to me especially after after 50 yrs!.

every time i think i've heard everything, something else pops up.. now i've come across a youtube video that mention tv evangelizer jimmy swaggart and the watchtower.

i remember jimmy swaggart from the time i lived in the u.s.a and i remember the scandals with him and prostitutes etc.

never a jw

"it would be who is selling the literature, the Watchtower through an agent or would the retailer be the individual JW"

Let's not play stupid or ignorant. We know who ultimately keeps and manages the money. You are suggesting that the individual JW, after being exploited, still may have to register and file sales tax returns. The Chutzpa!!! Haven't they gone through enough??

The sales tax is always paid by the final user, never a merchant. The merchant, however, in order to be able to sell, is obligated to collect the sales tax from the sales tax payer and pass it to the government. The Watchtower gets all the money. The Watchtower must pay.

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Rookie exJW Question

by Phoebe in

jw
friends

i was wondering if someone could help me with a question.. i am a rookie exjw, i only left the organization 4 months ago and everything i've discovered (un/arc/malawi/mexico etc) i've only discovered in the last few months so you can image it's been a huge shock to me especially after after 50 yrs!.

every time i think i've heard everything, something else pops up.. now i've come across a youtube video that mention tv evangelizer jimmy swaggart and the watchtower.

i remember jimmy swaggart from the time i lived in the u.s.a and i remember the scandals with him and prostitutes etc.

never a jw

@John Davis

"As a side note, I am not sure if they would have been correct or not, but Watchtower would not have paid this tax but each individual JW would pay the tax from the donation. That would mean that each individual JW would have to register with the state board and any local agencies if a county or city also wanted to tax the literature. So each JW would have had to file a quarterly tax return and send "

NON SENSE

I collect the sales tax from all my customers. They don't have to register. I do. I pay that sales tax that I collect directly from my checking account.

Similarly the final collector of the money paid for the Watchtower merchandise is the Watchtower. They have to pay tax.

The dishonesty comes from trying to tell rank and file that they (Watchtower) decided to voluntarily give away the literature. They were forced to NO SELL. Same thing with the case in Mexico. They refused to register as a religion because it was not a financially convenient move. They wanted to own real estate. Rank and file never knew this and never will, unless they learn the truth about the truth

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

never a jw

johnamos: "the sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and illustrious day of Jehovah arrives"

We have three of those (called eclipses) every year. I can make predictions like that every day. The difference is that my prediction will happen. Let's try:

"the sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the Summer Olympics arrives"

Talk to you in three years

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

never a jw

Johnamos,

I knew it. It was God himself (Joshua) who killed thousands to steal their land (the promised land).

What's worse? to kill thousands or to order to kill thousands? Both are pretty bad. Don't know

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Drugs, prayer & altered states of consciousness

by deegee in

have you got your "fix" yet?.

hallucinogens are known to induce altered states of consciousness..........but so can prayer:.

acts 10:9-23: "on the next day, as they were on their way and approaching the city, peter went up on the housetop about the sixth hour to pray.

never a jw

Yep! That's how it works.